BANDS:
- The Mooche [1969-1970]
- Supertramp [1970-Feb 73]
- Chicken Shack [1977-1979]
- The Young Bucks
- The Bucks [1979-Jul 79]
- Secret Affair [Jul 79-1982]
- Chicken Shack [1986-1987]
- Ian Page Band [2002-?]
- Secret Affair [2002]
- Secret Affair [Jun 03] (Casual Band - 1 gig)
- Ian Page Band [2004]
- Secret Affair [Apr 06] (Casual Band - 1 gig)
- Ian Page Band [2006]
- Winthrop´s Jazz Bollocks
- Richard Strange Band
- Chicken Shack [2008]
BIOGRAPHY:
Great sax and flute player, Dave Winthrop (nicknamed Winnie) was born on November 27th, 1948, in Camden, New Jersey, but emigrated to England when he was 8.
THE MOOCHE
The Mooche was a band from Chelmsford:
They recorded just one single in 1969 for the Pye label, ´Hot smoke and sassafras / Seen through a light´, produced by John Schroeder, but don´t know if this was made by the musicians listed above, apart from Dave. Does anybody know?
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THE MOOCHE #? |
? |
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Ian Pearce guitar | Dave Soars bass | Brian Tatum keyboards, vocals | Jeff Dann drums | |
They recorded just one single in 1969 for the Pye label, ´Hot smoke and sassafras / Seen through a light´, produced by John Schroeder, but don´t know if this was made by the musicians listed above, apart from Dave. Does anybody know?
SUPERTRAMP
Winthrop joined Supertramp in 1970:
The band was to record their first album, but for some reason, Dave Winthrop didn´t play on it.
But he played in their 2nd album, Indelibly stamped, and some live songs can be found in the movie Extremes (although they don't appear in the soundtrack released).
In February 1973, all the members left Hodgson & Davies alone, who carried on with a new lineup.
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SUPERTRAMP #? |
1970-Feb 73 |
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Roger Hodgson vocals, guitar | Rick Davies vocals, keyboards | Frank Farrell † bass | Kevin Currie drums | |
The band was to record their first album, but for some reason, Dave Winthrop didn´t play on it.
But he played in their 2nd album, Indelibly stamped, and some live songs can be found in the movie Extremes (although they don't appear in the soundtrack released).
In February 1973, all the members left Hodgson & Davies alone, who carried on with a new lineup.
CHICKEN SHACK
In 1977, Stan Webb resurrects mythical band Chicken Shack:
They recorded an album, The creeper, with help from Tony Ashton.
After a while, Martinez left, and his replacement is Ray Knott, Spevock´s old mate in Babe Ruth:
but Knott left the band very soon.
Steve York joined Chicken Shack around 1978, replacing Ray Knott:
This lineup released a very good album in 1978, That's the way we are, before Spevock left them in 1979.
For a tour in 1979, the drum seat in Chicken Shack was filled by Louis Borenius:
In 1979, all the members (except Stan Webb, of course) left the band.
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CHICKEN SHACK #? |
1977 |
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êBroken Glass |
êBroken Glass |
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Stan Webb vocals, guitar | Robbie Blunt guitar, vocals | Paul Martinez bass | Ed Spevock drums | |
They recorded an album, The creeper, with help from Tony Ashton.
After a while, Martinez left, and his replacement is Ray Knott, Spevock´s old mate in Babe Ruth:
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CHICKEN SHACK #? |
1977-1978 |
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Stan Webb vocals, guitar | Robbie Blunt guitar, vocals | Ray Knott bass | Ed Spevock drums | |
but Knott left the band very soon.
Steve York joined Chicken Shack around 1978, replacing Ray Knott:
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CHICKEN SHACK #? |
1978-1979 |
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Stan Webb vocals, guitar | Robbie Blunt guitar, vocals | Steve York bass | Ed Spevock drums | |
This lineup released a very good album in 1978, That's the way we are, before Spevock left them in 1979.
For a tour in 1979, the drum seat in Chicken Shack was filled by Louis Borenius:
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CHICKEN SHACK # |
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Stan Webb vocals, guitar | Robbie Blunt guitar, vocals | Steve York bass | Louis Borenius † drums | |
The Bucksê | ||||
In 1979, all the members (except Stan Webb, of course) left the band.
THE YOUNG BUCKS
I still have to find proper info about Dave playing with The Young Bucks. I don´t know if it´s my mistake, but were The Bucks and The Young Bucks the same band? I know many members are the same, but can´t say it for sure. And I guess there were more lineups with Dave in the band (probably with Seb Shelton at the same time). Help, please!
THE BUCKS
In 1979, Dave Winthrop joins The Bucks:
But they split after a few months, in July 1979.
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THE BUCKS #? |
1979-Jul 79 |
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êChicken Shack |
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Pat Rafferty vocals, keyboards | Tony Wadsworth vocals, guitar | Geoff Lincoln bass | Archie Brown sax | Jeff Rich drums | |
Secret Affairê | |||||
But they split after a few months, in July 1979.
SECRET AFFAIR
In July 1979, Secret Affair expands to a quintet when Dave Winthrop joins:
They released two albums, Glory boys (in 1979, with help on vocals by fantastic singer Maggie Ryder) and Behind close doors (in 1980).
Their drummer left in 1980:
But they still released a 3rd album, Business as usual, before parting ways finally in May 1982.
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SECRET AFFAIR #2 |
Jul 79-1980 |
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êThe Bucks |
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Ian Page vocals, trumpet, keyboards | David Cairns guitar | Dennis Smith bass | Seb Shelton drums | |
They released two albums, Glory boys (in 1979, with help on vocals by fantastic singer Maggie Ryder) and Behind close doors (in 1980).
Their drummer left in 1980:
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SECRET AFFAIR #3 |
1980-? |
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Ian Page vocals, trumpet, keyboards | David Cairns guitar | Dennis Smith bass | Paul Bultitude drums | |
But they still released a 3rd album, Business as usual, before parting ways finally in May 1982.
CHICKEN SHACK (again)
In 1986, Dave surprisingly rejoins Chicken Shack:
But he had to leave after a while due to health problems.
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CHICKEN SHACK #? |
1986-? |
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Stan Webb vocals, guitar | Robbie Blunt guitar, vocals | Jan Connolly bass | Dave Wilkinson † keyboards | John Gunzell drums | |
But he had to leave after a while due to health problems.
AND THEN...
Dave also plays with Chicken Shack from time to time, when he is available (it seems he rejoined the band in 2008, but can´t find info). He also plays in a Bruce Springsteen tribute band, and formed his own jazz trio, called Winthrop´s Jazz Bollocks.
SECRET AFFAIR (again)
In June 2002, Page & Cairns reform the last lineup of Secret Affair for 3 gigs:
And again, in June 2003, Secret Affair reforms for a special gig to promote their new compilation, Time for action - the anthology:
This concert was filmed and later released on DVD, as Live @ The Scala.
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SECRET AFFAIR #? |
Jun 02 |
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Ian Page vocals, trumpet, keyboards | David Cairns guitar | Dennis Smith bass | Paul Bultitude drums | |
And again, in June 2003, Secret Affair reforms for a special gig to promote their new compilation, Time for action - the anthology:
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SECRET AFFAIR #? |
Jun 03 |
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Ian Page vocals, trumpet, keyboards | David Cairns guitar | Dennis Smith bass | Paul Bultitude drums | |
This concert was filmed and later released on DVD, as Live @ The Scala.
IAN PAGE AND THE AFFAIR
Ian Page formed his own band, called Ian Page And The Affair around 1999. In 2002, he brings his past mate Dave Winthrop.
This was their lineup in 2004:
This was their lineup in 2004:
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IAN PAGE BAND #? |
2004 |
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Ian Page vocals, trumpet, keyboards | Jel Lee guitar | Ian Jones bass | Andy Brush sax, percussion | Steve Rinaldi trombone, percussion | Bob Clarke drums | |
SECRET AFFAIR (again)
In April 2006, Page & Cairns reform Secret Affair again for a benefit gig with a couple of new players:
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SECRET AFFAIR #? |
Apr 06 |
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Ian Page vocals, trumpet, keyboards | David Cairns guitar | Nick Abnett bass | Simon Hanson drums | |
IAN PAGE AND THE AFFAIR (again)
This was Ian Page And The Affair around 2006:
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IAN PAGE BAND #? |
2006 |
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Ian Page vocals, trumpet, keyboards | Jel Lee guitar | Ian Jones bass | Andy Brush sax, percussion | Bob Clarke drums | |
RICHARD STRANGE BAND
Dave Winthrop has been playing in Richard Strange Band, but can´t find info about the musicians. Can someone help, please?
DISCOGRAPHY: (19 albums known to me - Status: Quite advanced)
ALBUMS AS A BAND MEMBER (10 credits)
- Live @ The Scala - Secret Affair ( - )
- Members: Paul Bultitude, Dave Winthrop
- Comments: Live DVD taken from a 1982 concert.
- Hot smoke and sassafras / Seen through a light (SINGLE) - The Mooche (05/1969)
- Members: Dave Winthrop
- Producer: John Schroeder
- Indelibly stamped - Supertramp (06/1971)
- Members: Kevin Currie, Rick Davies, Roger Hodgson, Dave Winthrop (RIP: Frank Farrell)
- Technical: Bob Hall
- Comments: This was Supertramp´s second album.
- The Creeper - Stan Webb´s Chicken Shack (08/1978)
- Members: Robbie Blunt, Paul Martinez, Ed Spevock, Stan Webb, Dave Winthrop (RIP: Tony Ashton)
- Guests: Jimmy Jewell
- That´s the way we are - Chicken Shack (07/1979)
- Members: Robbie Blunt, Ed Spevock, Stan Webb, Dave Winthrop, Steve York
- Glory boys - Secret Affair (11/1979)
- Members: Seb Shelton, Dave Winthrop
- Guests: Maggie Ryder
- Comments: CD reissue contains 2 bonus tracks.
- Behind closed doors - Secret Affair (09/1980)
- Members: Seb Shelton, Dave Winthrop
- Comments: The CD reissue contains 2 bonus tracks.
- The Phenomenal rise of Richard Strange - Richard Strange (1981)
- Members: Dave Winthrop
- Guests: Steve Bolton, Ross Middleton (RIP: Rebop Kwaku Baah)
- Business as usual - Secret Affair (01/1982)
- Members: Dave Winthrop
- Going, gone - Richard Strange & The Engine Room (1986)
- Members: Dave Winthrop
- Guests: Steve Bolton, Jamie Muir, Pedro Ortiz, Jim Russell
- Time for action - the very best of - Secret Affair ( - )
- Members: Dave Winthrop
- Time for action - the anthology - Secret Affair (12/2003)
- Members: Paul Bultitude, Jamie Crompton, Seb Shelton, Dave Winthrop
- Guests: Chris Gent
- Comments: 2CD compilation with lots of rarities, including tracks from their previous band, New Hearts.
- Retrospectacle - the Supertramp anthology - Supertramp (10/2005)
- Members: Bob C Benberg, Kevin Currie, Rick Davies, Mark Hart, John Anthony Helliwell, Roger Hodgson, Cliff Hugo, Scott Page, Jesse Siebenberg, Dougie Thomson, Lee R Thornburg, Carl Verheyen, Dave Winthrop (RIP: Frank Farrell)
- Guests: Richard Hewson, Dick ´Slyde´ Hyde, Nick Lane, Steve Reid, Marty Walsh, Tom Walsh, David Woodford
- Producer: David Kershenbaum
- Technical: Greg Calbi, Tom Lord-Alge, Ken Scott, Allen Sides
- Mods Mayday ´79 - VVAA (07/1979)
- Guests: Dave Winthrop
- Comments: Collective live album.
- Here I love you - Shusha (1980)
- Guests: Richard Bailey, John Kirkpatrick, John McKenzie, Darryl Lee Que, Dave Winthrop (RIP: Lesley Duncan)
- Rhythm collision vol 1 - Ruts DC (1982)
- Members: Vince Segs (RIP: Paul Fox)
- Guests: Dave Winthrop
- The Happiest days of your life - Paul Bevoir with The Family Way (1985)
- Guests: Paul Bultitude, Dave Winthrop
- In the blood - Londonbeat (1991)
- Guests: George Chandler, Danny Cummings, Wilf Gibson, Luis Jardim, Mark Pinder, John Turnbull, Geraint Watkins, Dave Winthrop, Gavyn Wright
- Rhythm collision remixes - Ruts DC (09/1999)
- Members: Dave Ruffy, Vince Segs (RIP: Paul Fox)
- Guests: Dave Winthrop
QUESTIONS:
01. Did Dave play with Chicken Shack around 1970-71?
02. I need to find more info about sessions for Stray Cats and Jonathan Perkins.
03. I think the info on Supertramp is not accurate. Maybe Dave joined when David Palmer and Robert Millar were in the band. Can someone help, please?
THANKS:
Very Special Thanks to:
Thanks to:
WHAT'S NEW:
29/June/2010 - Page added to the blog.
31/October/2000 - Original page written by me (in the old site).
RELATED MUSICIANS:
Dave Winthrop mostly worked with these musicians: (name + number of credits)
Ian Page (6)
David Cairns (5)
Dennis Smith (5)
Paul Bultitude (3)
Seb Shelton (3)
Robbie Blunt (2)
Steve Bolton (2)
John Brand (2)
Kevin Currie (2)
Rick Davies (2)
Page created by Miguel Terol on: 31/October/2000 - Last modified on: 30/June/2010. If you want to contribute with info, please write to: molympus1@gmail.com
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